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Exclusive interview with Riyadh Air精东影业 CEO Tony Douglas at World Aviation Festival

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Few, if any, new airline projects generate the degree of excitement and expectation that Riyadh Air has managed to draw in the few months since the project started to take shape. 

To call Riyadh Air a 鈥渟tartup鈥 may be a bit misleading, since the new Saudi carrier, which is expected to take to the skies in 2025, is backed by the financial might of the Public Investment Fund (PIF).  

This investment institution is the vehicle through which the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is backing a string of large-scale projects that aim to make the Middle Eastern country a tourism powerhouse able to host 100 million visitors per year by 2030.聽

Riyadh Air is called to play a major role in this vision, by enhancing the air connectivity of Saudi Arabia and making its capital a major air hub. 

And the man selected to lead this gigantic enterprise is none other than Tony Douglas, who was at the helm of Abu Dhabi-based Etihad for half a decade. 

精东影业 had the chance to speak with Douglas on the sidelines of the World Aviation Festival, which took place in Lisbon, September 26-28, 2023. 

In a broad-ranging conversation, Douglas shared his vision for Riyadh Air and the Saudi air travel market, which he sees as being on the cusp of a massive wave of travel demand. According to Douglas, traffic to and from Saudi Arabia should, by itself, be enough to support the rise of a new major carrier in the region. 

Douglas referred to the underlying facts and trends supporting this forecast, such as Saudi Arabia becoming the world精东影业 fastest growing economy, a large and young population that is eager to travel, and a current lack of direct air connectivity to many of the world精东影业 major cities. 

He mentioned, as an example, a recent trip he undertook to one of China精东影业 main economic centers, for which it was not possible to find a nonstop flight.

鈥淔or the world精东影业 fastest growing economy this is totally unacceptable,鈥 he said.

Douglas highlighted how, unlike nearby hubs such as Doha or Dubai, there is enough latent demand in Saudi Arabia to sustain those flights without having to necessarily rely on global connecting traffic.聽

鈥93% of traffic going into Riyadh right now is point-to-point,鈥 he added.聽聽

Riyadh Air精东影业 project also counts on Saudi Arabia精东影业 tourism industry continuing to grow on the back of initiatives, such as the construction of new Red Sea resorts, the development of Al Ula, in the northwest of the country, as a major destination for international tourism, or even the appeal of football stars such as Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar, who are now playing in the Saudi league. 

鈥淭his year Saudi Arabia is the second most searched destination on the internet,鈥 affirmed Douglas. 鈥淓ven in a year, the progress has been phenomenal.” 聽聽

Not entirely unexpectedly given its name, the new airline will be based in the Kingdom精东影业 capital, Riyadh. From there, Douglas said Riyadh Air 鈥渨ill fly to all the obvious destinations in Europe, the eastern seaboard of North America, the capital cities of Central Europe, Central Asia, the Indian subcontinent, and the Far East, but also, very importantly, to the regional GCC cities and all major domestic destinations too.”

Douglas said he expected Riyadh to act as a transit point for many of those prospective tourists awaited by the proponents of Saudi Arabia精东影业 megaprojects.聽

An important question going forward, is what will be the relationship between the new Riyadh Air and the existing national carrier, Saudia, which is owned by a different government-controlled entity.聽聽

Douglas clarified that the two carriers are going to be complementary. He explained that the Saudi landmass is as large as several major European countries put together.

鈥淭he flying time between Riyadh and Jeddah is similar to that between Lisbon and Rome,鈥 he said, using a straightforward comparison to illustrate the point. 鈥淗ow many national carriers operate in the lands between Lisbon and Rome?”

He continued: 鈥淓ven if they also operate out of Riyadh, Saudia has always been traditionally based in Jeddah and they will progressively focus more of their activities in that city. We are very much aligned, we will act as the two national carriers of the Kingdom.”

Riyadh Air will be a full-service carrier.聽

鈥淲e stand for three things: first, Riyadh Air is going to be an environmental thought leader, second, a true digital native, because we have no legacy and, third, we鈥檒l have an obsessional attention to detail and guest experience, we will take it to the next level,” Douglas said. “Everything we鈥檒l do will reflect that.”

Riyadh Air ordered 72 Boeing 787 Dreamliners in March 2023, but this is not going to be the final word when it comes to building up the fleet. Douglas confirmed that in the coming months, the airline is going to place a sizable order for narrowbody aircraft.  

鈥淚t won鈥檛 be too far into the future until we make that decision quite clear [the narrowbody aircraft order – ed. note]. We will be building a fleet that is consistent with the kind of geographies I mentioned before, some 201 cities,” Douglas explained. “We are going to be one of the leading airlines in the region.鈥

“This is probably the biggest startup within two to three decades in the Middle East. This is a big, big startup,鈥 he added proudly.聽聽聽

When asked about the links between Riyadh Air, PIF, and the different megaprojects currently underway in Saudi Arabia, Douglas referred to them all being part of 鈥淭eam KSA, Team Kingdom of Saudi Arabia鈥. He added that 鈥渇rom the point of view of guest experience and the economic stimulus we provide, we are going to be as connected [to these other players in Saudi Arabia精东影业 economy 鈥 ed. note] as we can be.”

The elephant in the room, in this case, is the dependency of the airline industry and the Saudi economy, in particular, on fossil fuels, and how it aligns with the stated goal of becoming a sustainability thought leader.  

Douglas acknowledged the problem as well as the difficulty to wean the industry off oil.   

鈥淲hen I attended the IATA conference in Sydney in 2018, not that long ago, no one mentioned carbon reduction even once,” he said. “Two years later it was front and center. To me this is the first step: recognize the problem, get everyone to pull in the same direction.

鈥淏y definition, we鈥檒l have the most modern and efficient fleet from day one and the reason we made the selection that we have done, and the one that we’re about to make, is based upon the performance of the next generation aircraft, with next generation engines and next generation flight guidance computers and engine management computers, which are, give or take, 20% more fuel efficient than previous generations.”

He continued: “What we’ll also do is communicate and educate a broader awareness of everything that is necessary for us to continue to reduce the carbon footprint of commercial aviation. We will also publish our first sustainability report before we’ve even done our first flight, as a demonstration of thought leadership and how we’re presenting ourselves.”

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